Cisco Catalyst: Understanding Cloud Monitoring vs. Cloud Management

Cisco has been making significant changes to its Digital Network Architecture (DNA) offerings, particularly with the rebranding of DNA Center to Catalyst Center and the introduction of new cloud management and monitoring features. This shift has left many network managers, including myself, wondering what the new offerings mean and how they differ.

With DNA subscription renewals approaching, it’s important to understand the value of these features, especially Cloud Monitoring and Cloud Management for Catalyst hardware. Both options offer unique benefits, but knowing which one is the right fit depends on your network needs.

Let’s dive into the key differences between Cloud Monitoring and Cloud Management to help you decide which approach fits your organization’s requirements and budget.

Note: DNA Center is now Catalyst Center. Both DNA Center and Catalyst Center may be used interchangeably moving forward.

DNA Mode and Meraki Mode

There are quite a few “offerings” floating around in the Cisco world that were confusing to me, so this blog was created to educate myself and hopefully help you. At the same time, Cisco is rebranding many of its services. DNA Center is now Catalyst Center. DNA Spaces is now Cisco Spaces.

For whatever reason, the term or acronym "DNA" is being removed from Cisco products and services, although so far DNA Essentials and DNA Advantage remain. One of the main reasons I wrote this article is because of DNA Essentials/Advantage licensing.

As 3, 5, and 7-year term subscriptions are approaching expiration, Cisco has recently announced that those subscriptions now offer an additional benefit referred to as "Cloud Monitoring." Since most of the market has not adopted DNA Center, and the majority of network managers that I’ve spoken with do not intend to renew their DNA subscriptions, I wanted to understand what this newly added feature of Cloud Monitoring is, how it compares to Catalyst Center and the Meraki Dashboard, and what value it may offer.

Key Terms:

• DNA Mode: Catalyst device using a DNA license for Cloud Monitoring.
• Meraki Mode: Catalyst device using a Meraki license for Cloud Management.
• Cloud Monitoring: Catalyst device with visibility in the Meraki dashboard.
• Cloud Management: Catalyst switches and APs that can be managed in the Meraki Dashboard.
• Cisco DNA Center: Cisco’s intent-based networking solution, originally associated with DNA licensing.

Keep it simple, smarty: Cloud Management vs. Cloud Monitoring

What’s the difference between Cloud Management and Cloud Monitoring for Cisco Catalyst hardware?

• Cloud Management: Network managers can manage select Catalyst devices using the full feature set of the Meraki dashboard.
• Cloud Monitoring: Network managers can view select Catalyst devices in the Meraki dashboard but cannot make changes.

If you need more details about converting Catalyst switches to Meraki, which Catalyst devices can be converted, etc., you can find more information here: Want to Manage C9300s in the Meraki Dashboard?

Cloud Monitoring: A Visual Overview

Starting with 17.3.4, Catalyst 9200, 9300, and 9500 series switches in DNA mode can be added to the Meraki dashboard for monitoring and some troubleshooting.

• Once claimed in the Meraki dashboard, a “Monitor Only” tag is applied to the switch.
• “Monitor Only” allows a visual representation of connected ports and traffic information, but no changes can be made.
• CLI is still enabled.
• Diagnostic tools like Ping, Blink LEDs, MTR, Cable Test, Cycle Port, and Wake client are available.

Cloud Monitoring is a new feature Cisco has rolled out that I think Cisco hopes will make a DNA subscription valuable, but it comes with a hefty price tag for a tool that is mostly a visual representation of the network. In a recent SMARTnet Renewal Analysis that we conducted, covering 717 devices (C9200L, C9300L, and C9300 switches), a 3-Year DNA subscription renewal amounted to $1,613,518.00.

Cloud Monitoring is quite simply a visual representation of the network that primarily shows where a device might be in the network and whether it’s functioning. This feature allows you to view Catalyst hardware in the Meraki Dashboard, also referred to as Catalyst hardware in DNA Mode. In this mode, a Catalyst device with DNA licensing can be seen in the Meraki Dashboard but cannot be managed from it.

FAQs: Cloud Monitoring for Catalyst Devices

1. Which Catalyst products are included in Cloud Monitoring under DNA Mode?

2. For Cloud Monitoring, are there any differences between Cisco DNA Essentials and Advantage functionality?

• Yes, traffic and application visibility are available only on switches with a Cisco DNA Advantage license. NetFlow or IPFIX data within the Meraki dashboard also requires DNA Advantage.

3. Do I lose CLI access for switches being monitored via the Meraki dashboard?

• No. Everything remains the same except you can now see the applicable assets in the Meraki dashboard.
  

4. What firmware is required for Cloud Monitoring?

• Meraki Cloud Monitoring for Catalyst switches is supported in Cisco IOS® XE Software Release 17.3 through 17.7.
  

5. What licensing is required for Cloud Monitoring?

• An active Cisco DNA Software subscription.
  

6. Do I have to reimage every Catalyst switch to shift to Meraki Dashboard monitoring if I use the DNA software license?

• No. Monitoring doesn’t require a software change.
  

7. Can I upgrade software or make any changes to Catalyst switches from the Meraki Dashboard when in monitor-only mode?

• No. For monitored devices, continue to use your existing tools to manage your device software.
  

Cloud Management: Full Control with the Meraki Dashboard

Cloud Management allows network managers to manage devices via a cloud-based GUI. Although it may seem confusing, Cloud Management can be utilized by either the Meraki Dashboard or Catalyst Center (formerly DNA Center or DNAC). Cloud management for Meraki and qualifying Catalyst hardware requires a valid Meraki license and allows the device to be fully managed in the Meraki Dashboard. Catalyst Center requires a DNA license and an appliance.

For a detailed comparison between Catalyst Center and the Meraki Dashboard, see Cisco Catalyst Center vs. the Meraki Dashboard:

If a qualifying Catalyst device has a valid Meraki license, then that Catalyst device is managed like traditional Meraki hardware.

Catalyst Center is comprehensive, but adoption comes with many barriers. Catalyst Center / DNA Center and Intent-Based Networking (IBN) for LAN management today is more ambitious than practical. The overall simplicity and single-pane-of-glass concept is appealing to management, but ROI hasn’t been proven. Cisco wouldn’t be giving away new features for DNA (Catalyst Cloud Monitoring) if they weren’t trying to make the licensing more valuable.

One of the main claims is that Catalyst Center will reduce costs and decrease complexity, but that’s simply not true. The reality is that it may be worth waiting five years before fully adopting it. It’s entirely possible that IBN in the LAN may not be adopted, or, if it is, a clearer path to success will become known. Or, perhaps, it may evolve into something else. In any of these scenarios, it’s likely best to let someone else’s budget work through the kinks.

In addition to renewing the DNA licensing, for a standard 9300, Cisco typically pitches software support for DNA as well as a more expensive SMARTnet option known as “Success Tracks,” which is supposed to help with adoption. However, for 717 Catalyst 9300, 9300L, and 9200L switches we recently analyzed, what was formerly a $567,836 renewal for one year of SNT SMARTnet is now an annual cost of $1,270,249 for Success Tracks, software support, and DNA for one year. That’s a significant jump in cost with an uncertain degree of success.

By the way, Edgeium’s CovrEDGE is only $206,045 for this list.

Cost Comparison Table:

L1NBD	Qty	SNT List	Success Track List	DNA Renewal (3-Year)	DNA Software Support	CovrEDGE
C9200L-48P-4X-A	98	$68,698	$78,302	$436,982	$24,696	$20,580
C9200L-48P-4X-E	217	$152,117	$173,383	$287,525	$16,275	$62,496
C9300-24P-A	2	$1,014	$1,156	$4,756	$236	$312
C9300-48UXM-A	109	$125,298	$142,846	$486,140	$24,198	$56,026
C9300-48UXM-A-RF	4	$4,598	$5,242	$17,840	$888	$2,056
C9300L-48P-4X-E	287	$216,111	$246,246	$380,275	$18,942	$64,575
	717	$567,836	$647,175	$1,613,518	$85,235	$206,045

 

FAQs: Cloud Management Device Compatibility

1. Which Catalyst products are included in the cloud management for Catalyst offer (Meraki Mode)?

Supported Devices	Unsupported Devices
Catalyst 9300	Catalyst 2000
Catalyst 9300L	Catalyst 3000
Catalyst 9300X	Catalyst 4000
Catalyst 9162	Catalyst 6000
Catalyst 9164	Industrial Ethernet Switches
Catalyst 9166	Aironet APs
Catalyst 9166D1	Outdoor APs
Catalyst 9163E	Catalyst 9105
	Catalyst 9115
	Catalyst 9120
	Catalyst 9130
	Catalyst 9136
	Cisco Router and Edge devices

 

2. Can I see the same switch in both the Meraki dashboard and the Catalyst Center?

• No, you must choose one or the other.

3. Do I have to reimage every Catalyst switch to shift to Meraki Dashboard management?

• Yes, unless you order Catalyst with -M software. For further details, see: Want to Manage C9300s in the Meraki Dashboard?

4. Do I lose CLI access for switches being managed via the Meraki dashboard?

• Yes. Any Catalyst switch that is re-imaged with the Meraki software will no longer have CLI access.
  

5. What access point Product IDs (PIDs) do I order for Meraki management?

• Order the Meraki PID, which includes “-MR” at the end of the PID name. Specifically, you will order CW9166I-MR, CW9166D1-MR, CW9164I-MR, CW9162I-MR, or CW9163E-MR.
  

Navigating Catalyst’s Cloud Solutions

Cisco’s new Cloud Monitoring and Cloud Management features for Catalyst devices represent a shift in how network hardware is managed. While Cloud Monitoring offers a limited view, Cloud Management via the Meraki Dashboard provides full control over your devices. However, the significant costs associated with DNA subscriptions and Success Tracks might leave some organizations questioning the ROI.

As these features evolve, it’s essential to consider your network’s needs carefully and explore alternative options. Edgeium’s CovrEDGE™ offers a cost-effective alternative to Cisco’s licensing and support.

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